arnab221
06-12 01:25 PM
Honestly , I was really inspired by the old IV core when we were the most active during 2007 ( we had a huge rally and all all that ) . U stll remember the follwing folks
Pappu ( he is the only one who still writes )
waldenpond ( Aman kapoor I believe )
needhelp ( Niloufer )
There was a guy from CA ( forgot his name and IV handle )
many many more ( not sure about their names or IV handle )
Where are these folks ? I do not remember to have seen a single post from these core members for the past 1 year at least . Could I requst the leadership to please come out and share your agenda and let us know whats the strategy and future agenda . We are now well used to to swallowing the worst news and if the news is bad and there is no hope for the next year or so lets be aware of that too .
Pappu ( he is the only one who still writes )
waldenpond ( Aman kapoor I believe )
needhelp ( Niloufer )
There was a guy from CA ( forgot his name and IV handle )
many many more ( not sure about their names or IV handle )
Where are these folks ? I do not remember to have seen a single post from these core members for the past 1 year at least . Could I requst the leadership to please come out and share your agenda and let us know whats the strategy and future agenda . We are now well used to to swallowing the worst news and if the news is bad and there is no hope for the next year or so lets be aware of that too .
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sameer2730
02-06 01:25 PM
Thanks red200,
There was no RFE at all . Infact I was following up my case through my congressman's office and we always got responce back from uscis saying it is under "Security review" .
The email says "application denied." if it says RFE , I would not have such a shock .
it was reall gard day for me y'day when I sow that . I was almost on the werge of closing a house deal this month and with this 485 issue , I don' think I want to take the risk of buying the house now.
Though I do have little bit hope if it is because 140 revoke and we can prove the AC21 documents , it will get through .
Thanks
vinod
If this is real I hope things work out for you. But this post looks suspicious for the following reasons.
1. A congressman has been contacted but the I485 rejection details have not been received yet.
2. No details about the attorney opinion are provided.
3. Words are mispelt in way that appears deliberate "sow" "werge" and done so consistently. Overall english is good but some anti feels indians have poor spelling.
4. New account just to post this. Poster discovered IV after so many years. Possible but ...
We need to be aware that anti's turn up here and post personal looking details like trouble at POE, RFE , denials to create FUD. This post looks suspiciously like one of those. The OP does not look agitated enough and basically is just telling us "Vinod" used AC21 and got rejected. He is unwilling to give more details in his profile but telling us his name is Vinod.
Again if I an reading too much into this I am sorry.
There was no RFE at all . Infact I was following up my case through my congressman's office and we always got responce back from uscis saying it is under "Security review" .
The email says "application denied." if it says RFE , I would not have such a shock .
it was reall gard day for me y'day when I sow that . I was almost on the werge of closing a house deal this month and with this 485 issue , I don' think I want to take the risk of buying the house now.
Though I do have little bit hope if it is because 140 revoke and we can prove the AC21 documents , it will get through .
Thanks
vinod
If this is real I hope things work out for you. But this post looks suspicious for the following reasons.
1. A congressman has been contacted but the I485 rejection details have not been received yet.
2. No details about the attorney opinion are provided.
3. Words are mispelt in way that appears deliberate "sow" "werge" and done so consistently. Overall english is good but some anti feels indians have poor spelling.
4. New account just to post this. Poster discovered IV after so many years. Possible but ...
We need to be aware that anti's turn up here and post personal looking details like trouble at POE, RFE , denials to create FUD. This post looks suspiciously like one of those. The OP does not look agitated enough and basically is just telling us "Vinod" used AC21 and got rejected. He is unwilling to give more details in his profile but telling us his name is Vinod.
Again if I an reading too much into this I am sorry.
roseball
02-11 05:21 PM
Even if the Labor cert says "Masters" then as long as you had BS + 5 years experience before you filed for labor, to qualify for EB2, this should be ok.
This statement is not true. Minimum job qualifications should clearly mention the degree required or other alternate degree(s) with experience which would suffice. Moreover, it is a standard misconception among the community about Eb-2/Eb-3 categories being determined under Labor Certification stage. USCIS is the one which classifies applications under different categories (EB-1,2,3, etc) based on degree and/or yrs of experience, not DOL.
Labor certification determines the following: Minimum Job requirements (Education + experience required, if any), Job description/duties, Prevailing Wage. When filing I-140, if the job requirements meet a particular category and labor certification has been approved and the candidate meets the job requirements (education/experience as defined in LC), then the company can file in the appropriate EB category. Note that, even though if you have an approved LC that will qualify you for an EB-2 case, you also have an option to file for EB-3 I-140 with that LC instead of EB-2. Some companies deliberately do this to keep the beneficiaries employed with them for a longer duration.
Now coming back to the OPs case, I observe the following from the information posted so far:
- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned.
- USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
This statement is not true. Minimum job qualifications should clearly mention the degree required or other alternate degree(s) with experience which would suffice. Moreover, it is a standard misconception among the community about Eb-2/Eb-3 categories being determined under Labor Certification stage. USCIS is the one which classifies applications under different categories (EB-1,2,3, etc) based on degree and/or yrs of experience, not DOL.
Labor certification determines the following: Minimum Job requirements (Education + experience required, if any), Job description/duties, Prevailing Wage. When filing I-140, if the job requirements meet a particular category and labor certification has been approved and the candidate meets the job requirements (education/experience as defined in LC), then the company can file in the appropriate EB category. Note that, even though if you have an approved LC that will qualify you for an EB-2 case, you also have an option to file for EB-3 I-140 with that LC instead of EB-2. Some companies deliberately do this to keep the beneficiaries employed with them for a longer duration.
Now coming back to the OPs case, I observe the following from the information posted so far:
- Labor was filed with a minimum requirement as Masters degree. No alternate degree requirement or equivalency was mentioned.
- USCIS mistakenly approved the I-140 (I am assuming OP does not have a US Masters and only has masters equivalent or BS + 5 yrs)
- Sponsoring employer revoked approved I-140
- USCIS checked the I-140 and realized it made a mistake in initial I-140 approval
- USCIS denied the pending I-485 based on incorrect I-140 approval
If all of the above is correct, then I doubt if anything can be done. I dont see any grounds to file MTR based on the fact that beneficiary does not have a US Masters degree which is the requirement as indicated in LC filing. I dont think you can do anything with respect to USCIS's mistake in approving I-140 earlier and now denying it. Got to wait and see what the attorney's view is in this regard.
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svgupta
04-12 11:52 AM
I think this has been discussed on some other thread.. would it be a good idea to make the contributions public.. may be, this encourages others to contribute, when they realize how much more is needed to reach the monetary goal.
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EkAurAaya
10-10 05:37 PM
If my parents start now, they go to consulate for high emergency appointment tomorrow get stamp and Start tomorrow night, they will land just in time and I will bring them from the airport, once the get together is over, I will send them back. is that OK? so they will come :D:D:D:D:D
Sounds like a plan... pick up the phone and call them right away, you have committed to some serious dead lines over here :D
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Sounds like a plan... pick up the phone and call them right away, you have committed to some serious dead lines over here :D
BTW Slate ( 54 W 21st St) is also a good place to hang out... they pool tables/ping pong good music too
bobzibub
05-21 03:29 PM
Interesting ritual one has to follow :)
1. Copy the link on your clip-board (highlight and Ctrl+C). E.g., the following is the link for TSC
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
2. Close *all* your browser windows. Perhaps you might want to open the task manager and kill the "process tree". But simply closing *all* the browser windows was sufficient in my system.
3. Open your browser. Paste the link (Ctrl+v) on the browser and voila!
They could be using some distributed web caching like akamai.
Cheers,
-b
1. Copy the link on your clip-board (highlight and Ctrl+C). E.g., the following is the link for TSC
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
2. Close *all* your browser windows. Perhaps you might want to open the task manager and kill the "process tree". But simply closing *all* the browser windows was sufficient in my system.
3. Open your browser. Paste the link (Ctrl+v) on the browser and voila!
They could be using some distributed web caching like akamai.
Cheers,
-b
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santa123
10-15 04:36 PM
I am trying to submit my FOIA request to get copies of I140 and PERM.
I have not applied for my I485
Where and how do I get my A#?
I have not applied for my I485
Where and how do I get my A#?
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go_guy123
06-30 12:19 PM
But Gandhi ji actually did something when he was humiliated , unlike MOST IV MEMBERS" who just talk.. yes right TALK
Comparing with Gandhi ji's struggle makes no sense. When discriminated, he refused to cooperate. Refused to buy "monopolistic" foreign clothes, salt.
H1-B is noway similar to that. H1B can choose not to put up with discriminating employers, rules etc and chose not to work in an economy which is exploitative.
Once H1B stop putting up these rules, employers with think we need to do something to attract foreign talent. Till then why bother to lobby for change in EB rules.
Note: I approve of free trade but in those days it was all one-sided monopolistic trade where Indian consumers had no choice but were forced to buy British goods.
Comparing with Gandhi ji's struggle makes no sense. When discriminated, he refused to cooperate. Refused to buy "monopolistic" foreign clothes, salt.
H1-B is noway similar to that. H1B can choose not to put up with discriminating employers, rules etc and chose not to work in an economy which is exploitative.
Once H1B stop putting up these rules, employers with think we need to do something to attract foreign talent. Till then why bother to lobby for change in EB rules.
Note: I approve of free trade but in those days it was all one-sided monopolistic trade where Indian consumers had no choice but were forced to buy British goods.
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Openarms
05-27 12:24 PM
This is one of the most important bill for all our current chronic problems... once we get to solve these with this bill... we can focus futuristic goals as mentioned in IV list.... IV admin should make this an important thread and follow..encourage people to follow with congressmen and senators.
By the way whose effort is behind this bill introduction??? Is IV core has any role in this???
By the way whose effort is behind this bill introduction??? Is IV core has any role in this???
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gcbikari
04-15 12:59 PM
link (http://www.desicrunch.com/)
I think we should start a Employer Hall of shame and nominate employers who are either cheating the employees or the Immigration system.
This will help future employees and the immigration community as whole.
I am not sure if there are any legal implication to starting something on IV on this
I think we should start a Employer Hall of shame and nominate employers who are either cheating the employees or the Immigration system.
This will help future employees and the immigration community as whole.
I am not sure if there are any legal implication to starting something on IV on this
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aadimanav
08-21 11:47 PM
Any idea how many years will it take for APril 04 priority case (EB3/India) to get the 485 approval? Since I filed more than 3 years ago, I am telling my family and friends in India it will take 3 MORE years....
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Caliber
04-01 09:09 AM
Dear All,
Let us strive to achieve 10,000.00 contributions this month too. I request every one to please understand that either we get our GC's this year or forget for another two years due to mid term elections next year.
If we can pool really good amount, we may at least be able to lobby USCIS for some relief though with these small contributions, we may NEVER be able to lobby the congress.
We do not need to tell IV core what we want, they are all aware of our goals. But small contributions like 50-100 may not be enough to lobby to convince Congress our great contributions.
I am EB3 Oct 2002. Just received letter from SSN that, I have 40 credits now. We still can not even estimate when we will get GC's. In few months or few years?
If we think of 200 or 300 dollars, we may have to continue to suffer like this.
Can we determine to pool in at least 200,000.00 (each to contribute at least 300 dollars) so that we can at least hope for GC in few months and not years.
Please help yourself.
My contribution for April:
Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: Caliber)
$50.00 USD for one month
Effective Date: Apr. 1, 2009 $50.00 USD
Let us strive to achieve 10,000.00 contributions this month too. I request every one to please understand that either we get our GC's this year or forget for another two years due to mid term elections next year.
If we can pool really good amount, we may at least be able to lobby USCIS for some relief though with these small contributions, we may NEVER be able to lobby the congress.
We do not need to tell IV core what we want, they are all aware of our goals. But small contributions like 50-100 may not be enough to lobby to convince Congress our great contributions.
I am EB3 Oct 2002. Just received letter from SSN that, I have 40 credits now. We still can not even estimate when we will get GC's. In few months or few years?
If we think of 200 or 300 dollars, we may have to continue to suffer like this.
Can we determine to pool in at least 200,000.00 (each to contribute at least 300 dollars) so that we can at least hope for GC in few months and not years.
Please help yourself.
My contribution for April:
Donation to Support Immigration Voice (User: Caliber)
$50.00 USD for one month
Effective Date: Apr. 1, 2009 $50.00 USD
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jsb
03-19 03:32 PM
We could not even pool $10K for FOIA. For lobbying, one needs lots and lots of money in the range of 100K -200K. What can IV do? Can you explain what you mean by "something'? if all of us EB3's can pool 100K, then we can request IV to do "SOMETHING". Hope every one understands this.
How is anybody sure that by spending 5K or 10K, you will get what you are looking for? Just because somebody quoted 5K fee for such an information (which may be their standard response to such custom information extraction requests), it does not mean it can be readily found. If it were that easy, USCIS/DOS would be using it. The fact remains that PD related information does not exist other than in physical paper applications/files related with LC, I-140 and I-485. There is nothing on the system based on PD's. Don't we see it in guesswork used for advancing and retrogressing PD's. Note that for most immigration applcations PD's do not play any role. Only when at adjudication time, birth country is noted to be India/China, the officer has to check PD with respect to current cutoff dates. Systems are not designed for handling any processings based on PD's, so quick access to such information is not available - with a fee or without a fee
How is anybody sure that by spending 5K or 10K, you will get what you are looking for? Just because somebody quoted 5K fee for such an information (which may be their standard response to such custom information extraction requests), it does not mean it can be readily found. If it were that easy, USCIS/DOS would be using it. The fact remains that PD related information does not exist other than in physical paper applications/files related with LC, I-140 and I-485. There is nothing on the system based on PD's. Don't we see it in guesswork used for advancing and retrogressing PD's. Note that for most immigration applcations PD's do not play any role. Only when at adjudication time, birth country is noted to be India/China, the officer has to check PD with respect to current cutoff dates. Systems are not designed for handling any processings based on PD's, so quick access to such information is not available - with a fee or without a fee
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vinabath
05-29 01:03 PM
To the best of my knowledge they make good money. I personally know so many examples where H-1s make more money than US citizens. Only exception would be the ones who are fulltime in Infosys type companies.
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gc_rip
02-10 12:28 PM
This is an amazing forum, and I would like to thank you all for the useful information.
I know, it's going to be a long journey, but a start would definitely help.
Thanks, :)
I know, it's going to be a long journey, but a start would definitely help.
Thanks, :)
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gc_mania_03
08-28 02:23 PM
1) 2-passport size photographs with your A#, name written on the back.
2) Letter justifying the need for AP.
3) Copy of I-485 receipt
4) Copy of old AP.
5) Copy of Passport information page (or) DL
6) Copy of Confirmation notice of e-file.
Folks,
I need some advice on AP filing.
I E-Filed my wife's AP last weekend and promptly sent the documents. But, just now I realized that I did not enclose the passport-photos with the packet.
What do you think can be done now?
I plan to send another packet, with a cover letter stating that I had forgot the photos and they are in the packet. I also plan to enclose the confirmation receipt with the packet.
Should that be enough?
2) Letter justifying the need for AP.
3) Copy of I-485 receipt
4) Copy of old AP.
5) Copy of Passport information page (or) DL
6) Copy of Confirmation notice of e-file.
Folks,
I need some advice on AP filing.
I E-Filed my wife's AP last weekend and promptly sent the documents. But, just now I realized that I did not enclose the passport-photos with the packet.
What do you think can be done now?
I plan to send another packet, with a cover letter stating that I had forgot the photos and they are in the packet. I also plan to enclose the confirmation receipt with the packet.
Should that be enough?
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tikka
07-06 12:46 PM
maybe you can help with other action items?
you have motivated many folks and we could use help on the contribution fund, media drive, diggs etc
Thank you
Is there any Specific date, I mean when AILF is filing the case...USCIS is announced they are gonna reject the applications..but did they rejected any single application?? We will come to know after 4 or 5 weeks abt our applications (As per USCIS rep)....I think there must be some time limit to file a case...and we dont have a base to file a case until they reject it.
Finally they dont reject application nor they will accept it...
Guys send flowers with all your comments on JULY 10TH...we may get media and political atten...
this is just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Chandra.
you have motivated many folks and we could use help on the contribution fund, media drive, diggs etc
Thank you
Is there any Specific date, I mean when AILF is filing the case...USCIS is announced they are gonna reject the applications..but did they rejected any single application?? We will come to know after 4 or 5 weeks abt our applications (As per USCIS rep)....I think there must be some time limit to file a case...and we dont have a base to file a case until they reject it.
Finally they dont reject application nor they will accept it...
Guys send flowers with all your comments on JULY 10TH...we may get media and political atten...
this is just my 2 cents.
Thanks,
Chandra.
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AGC4ME
04-08 03:12 PM
Going back might be a good call. But the truth is, no matter how much money you got, how secured you are, the bottom-line is that the call has to come from the individual.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
is the answer :-0). Remember in life you have to have an attitude of respecting others, if u think you need to be treated specially cause you have lived in America 10yrs then u would be definitely disappointed. A lot of my friends have relocated to India and I am too early next year. The only answer is attitude.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
is the answer :-0). Remember in life you have to have an attitude of respecting others, if u think you need to be treated specially cause you have lived in America 10yrs then u would be definitely disappointed. A lot of my friends have relocated to India and I am too early next year. The only answer is attitude.
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greencard_fever
10-03 10:19 PM
This is indeed a gloomy and (in my view credible) story. The only thing possibly that can help us within the current laws, is the visa overflow from EB1 and EB2 ROW.
Lets hope for the rest. The Nov. Visa bulletin will be confirmatory.
You are right...
Lets hope for the rest. The Nov. Visa bulletin will be confirmatory.
You are right...
Hassan11
02-09 08:31 AM
I filed an apeal for my first PERM too and preparing to file another one (through another company - you can't file another PERM via the same company while your first PERM is in appeal). Your's is there for longer than mine. I heard 4 to 6 months would be the time. Please let us know when and how yours is resolved.
Styrum: Why did you file an appeal on your first perm and why are you planning to file another appeal? Maybe I am not understanding something here. was your first LC denied? (on what ground?) why your second LC denied?? Please explain. it seems that we are on the same boat but my appeal have been there longer (now over 6 months)
does anybody here has any idea how long the appeal on the LC decision takes?? any information will be greatly appreciated.
Styrum: Why did you file an appeal on your first perm and why are you planning to file another appeal? Maybe I am not understanding something here. was your first LC denied? (on what ground?) why your second LC denied?? Please explain. it seems that we are on the same boat but my appeal have been there longer (now over 6 months)
does anybody here has any idea how long the appeal on the LC decision takes?? any information will be greatly appreciated.
eb3_nepa
07-09 03:00 PM
I am not saying that it is working on the USCIS. We dont know yet coz the flowers start reaching there tommorow. If it is working on USCIS, we would know by the end of the week. Not now.
But it is working on the media.
What I am saying is we are getting a good amount of attention from a lot of newspapers - which is important to create more awareness on the plight of half a million law abiding immigrants and the backlogs they are facing.
Which newspapers are these guys? Which newspapers are covering or are interested in covering this story?
But it is working on the media.
What I am saying is we are getting a good amount of attention from a lot of newspapers - which is important to create more awareness on the plight of half a million law abiding immigrants and the backlogs they are facing.
Which newspapers are these guys? Which newspapers are covering or are interested in covering this story?
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