
pappu
02-27 10:54 PM
o.k. Thanks for your reply
so are you trying to say that IV is so disappointed that it will not do anything at all ?
Never said that.
IV is you and me. Please take the initiative and lead the effort if you feel strongly about your idea. You can start by doing a media campaign and generate articles on this subject.
so are you trying to say that IV is so disappointed that it will not do anything at all ?
Never said that.
IV is you and me. Please take the initiative and lead the effort if you feel strongly about your idea. You can start by doing a media campaign and generate articles on this subject.
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Mr. Brown
08-11 12:22 AM
EB-1: C
EB-2: C
EB-3: C
Why? Weak economy ... gov. needs more money from our filings :D
EB-2: C
EB-3: C
Why? Weak economy ... gov. needs more money from our filings :D

flipflop
12-11 08:47 PM
It is not I, who decides it on what to do. It is always the opinion of majority members.
You didn't get me. If the majority members say lets do all of them, which ones you think you will be able to do?
You didn't get me. If the majority members say lets do all of them, which ones you think you will be able to do?
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jonty_11
06-28 12:37 PM
With this rule in effect from july 2nd, what happens to the cases filed before in PP but it is in pending status with an RFE.
I had received RFE on my I-140 on June 1st and replied back on June 6th but there is no update since then from USCIS.
dotn worry...this stuff normally is for any new applications only!!!
I had received RFE on my I-140 on June 1st and replied back on June 6th but there is no update since then from USCIS.
dotn worry...this stuff normally is for any new applications only!!!
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chiraj
07-13 09:39 PM
Hi ,
I am a GC Holder can anybody advice me top5 Life insurance companies for Term as well as Whole Life Insurance.
I am a GC Holder can anybody advice me top5 Life insurance companies for Term as well as Whole Life Insurance.

Wendyzhu77
08-18 10:58 PM
Although I never agree with those "restrictionists", I have to say this time they are right on one point: reduce the family immigration. EB immigration brings in much better people than FB.
After calling US born children of illegal immigrants as "anchor babies", and family immigration as "chain migration", our friends at the anti-immigrant NumbersUSA have a new term for skilled immigrants, you guessed it "anchor immigrant".
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
After calling US born children of illegal immigrants as "anchor babies", and family immigration as "chain migration", our friends at the anti-immigrant NumbersUSA have a new term for skilled immigrants, you guessed it "anchor immigrant".
They are again using their scare tactics to influence congress to drop its support for HR 5882.
Calling all EB3 guys, Eb2 IND guys with PD after Aug 06, and others with PD retrogressed, its in your sef-interest to call your members of congress to seek their support for this legislation, and to contribute to IV. There will be no relief for a while if this fails.
-=====
NUMBERSUSA,
ROy Beck
Aug 18, 2008
IT TAKES A VILLAGE -- Chain Migration Puts Nearly Everybody In Line To Overwhelm U.S. Communities
By Roy Beck, Monday, August 18, 2008, 12:50 AM
As soon as we take a single skilled immigrant from a developing nation, around 17 different families may be put in line to follow because of our reckless Chain Migration policies.
Our immigration policies literally "take a village" every time a new Anchor Immigrant is admitted to this country.
Fortunately, our immigration policies do have a few boundaries and delays that keep the whole village from entering our U.S. communities immediately. But every one of the members of those 17 families begins to consider future immigration to the U.S. as an entitlement. And because of that, millions don't wait for their turn, instead settling in the U.S. illegally to wait for the greencard that they believe is rightfully theirs.
THE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANT'
Our U.S. population is exploding -- consigning more and more of us to heavily congested, heavily regulated lives -- because of high immigration numbers, which have snowballed because Congress insists on continuing Chain Migration.
Because of Chain Migration, every immigrant we allow into the country because he/she brings a special skill, education or experience becomes an Anchor Immigrant.
That is, if officials determine that an employer can't find an American to fill a job and allow the importation of a foreign worker, that worker becomes an anchor in the U.S. for vast numbers of other people from his/her home country.
One problem for the United States is that only the Anchor Immigrant is supposed to be picked on the basis of serving the national interest.
All the other immigrants attached to that Anchor through Chain Migration get to come without any regard whatsoever to their education, skill or humanitarian need.
ONE ANCHOR CONNECTS TO 17 FAMILIES
My "17-Family Chain-Migration Village" example is not close to the worst possible scenario but it is a nightmare that is not uncommon.
Here's the scenario:
Consider a typical Anchor Immigrant who comes from a developing nation and has three adult siblings. All of them come from one family. As soon as the Anchor Immigrant is accepted, all those siblings know that the Anchor Immigrant can put them in line for immigration once he/she becomes a U.S. citizen. Mentally, that one whole family is now in line to come to America.
But there are many more families who mentally get in line, too. The Anchor's spouse, plus each of those three siblings' spouses will be eligible. That makes five families now in line (the original plus the families of the four spouses).
In every one of those families are their own siblings, minor children, parents, etc. This is getting to be quite a crowd of people who suddenly see their future as possibly being in the U.S. That makes five families involved now (the original and the four spouses' families).
Now, consider the siblings of those four spouses. That would be 3 siblings multiplied by the 4 spouses, equalling 12 more adults, all of whom potentially have their own spouses! Potentially, each of those 12 spouses of the siblings of the spouses of the Anchor's siblings is from a different family.
Now, you have those 12 families, plus the Anchor's family, plus the families of the four spouses of the three siblings of the Anchor. That potentially adds up to 17 families that immediately can know that they are in a chain that eventually can have a chance to immigrate to America. And all of that happens the minute our government decides to give a permanent work permit to a single foreign worker.
An Anchor Immigrant immediately creates chains of expectation into possibly 17 different families.
You can imagine how a village or urban neighborhood can quickly have most of its residents seeing that their future is in the United States. Not only does this build huge pressures for more migration and more population growth in the U.S. but it saps whole villages and neighborhoods of the will for self-improvement.
Why will people pour themselves into bettering their own communities when they believe their future lies living in America? And, of course, the chain migration does not end with those 17 families. Our rules are set up so that every Chain Immigrant also becomes an Anchor Immigrant, making it possible for every relative to get in line to come to the U.S.
The only solution is to end the Chain Migration categories entirely. (See our pages on the legislative solutions.) That means limiting each Anchor Immigrant to bringing a spouse and minor children. No adult children, siblings or parents.
The Anchor Immigrant can easily visit his/her relatives annually (or more often) and can be in constant communication by phone, internet and postal mail. Chain categories must be ended if we are to avoid the nightmare of 439 million U.S. population in 2050 as projected by the Census Bureau.
CONGRESS THREATENING TO ADD 550,000 MORE 'ANCHOR IMMIGRANTS' NEXT YEAR
Sen. Menendez of New Jersey is blocking the re-authorization of E-Verify (to keep illegal aliens out of jobs) until Congress agrees to add 550,000 additional Anchor Immigrants next year.
At the moment, the leadership of both Senate and House are seriously considering trying to pass the 550,000 increase in Anchor Immigrants.
Powerful media like the Los Angeles Times and New York Times are lobbying hard for more Anchor Immigrants.
Unless the American people themselves become fully aware of the dangers of Chain Migration and the concept of the "17-Family Chain-Migration Village," the Big Business and Big Media lobbyists are likely to multiply the chain migration nightmare many times again.
Make sure you have gone to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet and sent all your free faxes to push your Members of Congress to stop Sen. Menendez and to eliminate Chain Migration.
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red200
02-05 11:52 PM
Sorry to hear about it.
Was there a RFE about any thing ?
Was there a RFE about any thing ?
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logiclife
08-27 12:52 PM
What if DMV refuses to renew the license if I-94/H1 is extended for 1 year (mostly in the case of H1 extension beyond 6th year) but is not stamped on your passport. This happened with me. DMV officer insisted on visa stamped on my passport and he was not ready to accept the I-797 form which I was showing. Finally, I've to go to other DMV and count on my luck to get my license renewed.
This is a as much a problem with DMV as a problem with employees. I did not 100% agreed with your comments that it's a problem with an employer. Now a days even filing 6 months prior to expiration is not guranteed to give you a timely approval.
In Florida, no matter if you have 1 yr or 3yrs I-94/Visa, they only issue you a license for 1 year. Period. Florida..anyway sucks.
Also, can someone tell me, once you get an EAD, can we use that to get the license renewal?
Yes, I agree with you. Asking for valid visa stamp is too much, the latest I-797 and latest valid I-94 should be enough to get driver's license, because latest valid I-94 proves that you are legal and that's enough. Passport stamp is not neccesary to prove legal status.
The sad part is that employers should get involved with state legislature and state regulators, DMV etc to make sure their foriegn workers have ability to get driver's license based on approved I-797. Its a mess.
This is a as much a problem with DMV as a problem with employees. I did not 100% agreed with your comments that it's a problem with an employer. Now a days even filing 6 months prior to expiration is not guranteed to give you a timely approval.
In Florida, no matter if you have 1 yr or 3yrs I-94/Visa, they only issue you a license for 1 year. Period. Florida..anyway sucks.
Also, can someone tell me, once you get an EAD, can we use that to get the license renewal?
Yes, I agree with you. Asking for valid visa stamp is too much, the latest I-797 and latest valid I-94 should be enough to get driver's license, because latest valid I-94 proves that you are legal and that's enough. Passport stamp is not neccesary to prove legal status.
The sad part is that employers should get involved with state legislature and state regulators, DMV etc to make sure their foriegn workers have ability to get driver's license based on approved I-797. Its a mess.
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wa_Saiprasad
12-11 10:47 PM
I vote for Blood Drive. I have donated blood two times in the US no issues.
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terriblething
06-12 10:13 AM
tell me this is a joke..:D... if not..man join the que .life sucks in the GC lane
It is not joke, that's my unbelievable terrible start since this March. When we look back, still think it like a nightmare. And one neigbour told cop she heard my wife shout "Help me, he is gonna kill me." But you knew we even don't speak English at home. Where that ridiculous words from? BTW, when cops come, they firstly mis-arrest my another neigbour, as they also have some argue. Probably that is where it from.... But now that everything we have to explain on the court and convince the jury. Fortunately my wife always stand on my side.
Anyone could tell me what impact to my 485 approval if damn jury find guilty in my case? Thanks a lot!!!!!!
It is not joke, that's my unbelievable terrible start since this March. When we look back, still think it like a nightmare. And one neigbour told cop she heard my wife shout "Help me, he is gonna kill me." But you knew we even don't speak English at home. Where that ridiculous words from? BTW, when cops come, they firstly mis-arrest my another neigbour, as they also have some argue. Probably that is where it from.... But now that everything we have to explain on the court and convince the jury. Fortunately my wife always stand on my side.
Anyone could tell me what impact to my 485 approval if damn jury find guilty in my case? Thanks a lot!!!!!!
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chanduv23
10-10 03:03 PM
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lalithkx
06-26 04:03 PM
Anyone got their AP renewal approved? How long it is taking these days?
I applied for EAD and AP renewals concurrently on May 28th and sent following support docs for AP.
1. 2 photos.
2. old AP copy
3. I-485 copy
4. Passport biometric pages
5. EAD copy
FP appnt on June 23rd.
AP Approved e-mail on June 23rd.
My wife's Receipt was just 10 nos difference but she hasn't got it yet.
Hope it helps
I applied for EAD and AP renewals concurrently on May 28th and sent following support docs for AP.
1. 2 photos.
2. old AP copy
3. I-485 copy
4. Passport biometric pages
5. EAD copy
FP appnt on June 23rd.
AP Approved e-mail on June 23rd.
My wife's Receipt was just 10 nos difference but she hasn't got it yet.
Hope it helps
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gcpadmavyuh
03-17 12:06 PM
Sahaayam:
My personal advice - you should consult with an experienced attorney with the specifics of your case. This is not a very typical case, and what you hear on this forum may not be very useful for you.
Gurus,
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the �Court Disposition Document� which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
My personal advice - you should consult with an experienced attorney with the specifics of your case. This is not a very typical case, and what you hear on this forum may not be very useful for you.
Gurus,
Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the �Court Disposition Document� which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel
Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.
Appreciate all your inputs.
Have a nice day!!!
Thank you,
Sahaayam.
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11-04 12:12 AM
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if u know any indian grocery near by they deal money also . u can pay the money to thier people in india & they will give it here taking 1 or 2% commission . but u should know the people , otherwise they will cheat
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riva2005
04-12 12:37 PM
I think Immigration Voice should stop this stupidity of catering to a community that cannot split $20 per month.
I think most members feel that things were going great without immigration voice when we were dis-organized, without any lobbying power and without an professional help.
I think most members are hoping that lawmakers will take pity on them at some point in time, and start working on their own so really why waste $20. How much stuff can $20 buy? Why waste it on Immigration Voice. Why not take your wife to a movie for $20. That's money well spent.
IV Core: Stop asking for funds and get back on with your life. Dont you have a life, a family, a job? Dont you worry about your own jobs when you divert attention from your daytime job to this stupid website and activities? Why they heck do you keep travelling to DC when you are not even having support of 1000 paid contributors?
Just go and leave this community at the mercy of Chuck Grassley and Jeff Sessions.
I think most members feel that things were going great without immigration voice when we were dis-organized, without any lobbying power and without an professional help.
I think most members are hoping that lawmakers will take pity on them at some point in time, and start working on their own so really why waste $20. How much stuff can $20 buy? Why waste it on Immigration Voice. Why not take your wife to a movie for $20. That's money well spent.
IV Core: Stop asking for funds and get back on with your life. Dont you have a life, a family, a job? Dont you worry about your own jobs when you divert attention from your daytime job to this stupid website and activities? Why they heck do you keep travelling to DC when you are not even having support of 1000 paid contributors?
Just go and leave this community at the mercy of Chuck Grassley and Jeff Sessions.
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everonh1
08-05 01:38 PM
Guys,
Based on the posts here and elsewhere,even I had reached a conclusion that if your PD is not current and if you get married when its retrogressed,you will have to wait till it becomes current to add your spouse to your I-485.
But recently,I was talking to a friend.He was in exact same situation couple of years back and was thinking he cannot add his spouse.But when he contacted his attorney,he/she said there is nothing like that and he went ahead and added her to his 485 without issues. This is fact.As per his attorney any addition to primary application is allowed no matter PD is current or not. The thing is, it went off fine and he has not got his GC yet,but his wife's 485 is also filed.
Now I am not sure whom to believe.Is there any specfic USCIS faq or comments which clarifies this issue?
rgds,
everonh1
Based on the posts here and elsewhere,even I had reached a conclusion that if your PD is not current and if you get married when its retrogressed,you will have to wait till it becomes current to add your spouse to your I-485.
But recently,I was talking to a friend.He was in exact same situation couple of years back and was thinking he cannot add his spouse.But when he contacted his attorney,he/she said there is nothing like that and he went ahead and added her to his 485 without issues. This is fact.As per his attorney any addition to primary application is allowed no matter PD is current or not. The thing is, it went off fine and he has not got his GC yet,but his wife's 485 is also filed.
Now I am not sure whom to believe.Is there any specfic USCIS faq or comments which clarifies this issue?
rgds,
everonh1
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mjdup
03-01 06:05 PM
I have similarly checked a site here in MA which most of the local indian community visits. The prices are little high and I'm negotiating. If sulekha is visited a lot please enquire about the prices and then you can forward to the media committee.
I'm planning to contribute to the ad myself if the local website agrees to my terms. (Still bargaining !)
Sukekha.com is the most visited website for INDIANS in NORTHEAST....for all classifields. Would it be very expensive to put up some banners in LEADING indian websites where lot of INDIAN IT people visit.
I'm planning to contribute to the ad myself if the local website agrees to my terms. (Still bargaining !)
Sukekha.com is the most visited website for INDIANS in NORTHEAST....for all classifields. Would it be very expensive to put up some banners in LEADING indian websites where lot of INDIAN IT people visit.
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21stIcon
07-16 10:35 AM
Good luck finding one that covers you till the end AND is low on premium! The cheapest premiums are that of term insurance, and it is intended for such situations where you have taken measures to invest in other places such as real estate, equities, bonds, cash etc, AND you are not counting on earning any return on the premiums you have paid.
This insurance is plain and simple. You pay low for covering you for a certain period of time - 10, 20, 30 years.
Btw, if one is 35 years old and buys a 30 year term insurance, you are covered until the age of 65. What is your point?
It shows your knowledge about life insurance, go check it out on web for senior citizens quote and why life expectancy is beyond 65 and how to pass wealth to heir
This insurance is plain and simple. You pay low for covering you for a certain period of time - 10, 20, 30 years.
Btw, if one is 35 years old and buys a 30 year term insurance, you are covered until the age of 65. What is your point?
It shows your knowledge about life insurance, go check it out on web for senior citizens quote and why life expectancy is beyond 65 and how to pass wealth to heir
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aknynd
12-11 10:35 PM
How About Sweeping Roads In Nyc ..on Wall Street, In Front Of Nyse And Nasdaq And Also In Ffreont Of All Tv Stations ...will Get Lots Of Media Attention ...
jthomas
09-22 05:45 PM
I called some and it feels like not many had started calling yet.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
Please Call.
rahulpaper
08-22 02:21 PM
....The online status says 485 received and pending." means?
Did you apply 485 in August 07 and already your status is showing pending? Did you receive a receipt notice?
Please enlighten ?
I have April 04 priority date (EB3/India). 485 received in Aug 07. The online status says 485 received and pending. What is the expected next status (whenever it will happen). For example, if your case (name) is for FBI Name Check process, will the status say something like that? What are the different status between receipt and APPROVAL(/denied)? Any experience holders???
Did you apply 485 in August 07 and already your status is showing pending? Did you receive a receipt notice?
Please enlighten ?
I have April 04 priority date (EB3/India). 485 received in Aug 07. The online status says 485 received and pending. What is the expected next status (whenever it will happen). For example, if your case (name) is for FBI Name Check process, will the status say something like that? What are the different status between receipt and APPROVAL(/denied)? Any experience holders???
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