puddonhead
06-18 10:48 AM
I am not on L1, neither do I work in the kind of an assignment which will come under the radar due to this - but have many friends on L1. Hence I think I may have a slightly more balanced and perhaps somewhat sobering POV on this.
Since I have many friends on L1 - I know pretty well how they are abused by their employers. Just the fact that you cant quit the employer enables some forms of abuse so subtle that they will not stand in any court of law. So I hope for the sake of people on L1, and to uphold the rule of law - that this abuse stops. If it does - their employers would be forced to bring them in H1 - which is far less prone to abuse due to the portability.
However, the current "run to the DOL/ICE" approach that you guys are taking may have repurcussions well beyond you had bargained for. Think of it from the POV of a client manager (lets take the example of, say, a goldman manager). He has his hands full of sucking up to his boss, playing the internal politics and in his spare time doing some work. 99% of them (even those who actually immigrated themselves) have no appetite to get into the details of immigration law. So, as soon as there is a backlash on this - their immediate response would be to take the safest route out and require Citizenship/GC for all positions.
As soon as that wave starts - many of us are going to get burnt. Many of us who have EAD, including yours truely, would probably be able to sneak through without too much of an issue (since it is illegal to discriminate against EADs) - however, many others who are not so fortunate would probably not fare so well. Most probably what will happen is that as soon as a recruiter sees brown skin and hears some trace of an accent - alerm bells would go off in the mind to check if this guy is GC holder or a citizen.
The enabler of the L1 abuse is the non-portability of these visas. We cant do much about that in the current environment. But going all gung ho in terms of enforcement right now -when there is a recession in full swing - may not be in the best interest of any of us.
Since I have many friends on L1 - I know pretty well how they are abused by their employers. Just the fact that you cant quit the employer enables some forms of abuse so subtle that they will not stand in any court of law. So I hope for the sake of people on L1, and to uphold the rule of law - that this abuse stops. If it does - their employers would be forced to bring them in H1 - which is far less prone to abuse due to the portability.
However, the current "run to the DOL/ICE" approach that you guys are taking may have repurcussions well beyond you had bargained for. Think of it from the POV of a client manager (lets take the example of, say, a goldman manager). He has his hands full of sucking up to his boss, playing the internal politics and in his spare time doing some work. 99% of them (even those who actually immigrated themselves) have no appetite to get into the details of immigration law. So, as soon as there is a backlash on this - their immediate response would be to take the safest route out and require Citizenship/GC for all positions.
As soon as that wave starts - many of us are going to get burnt. Many of us who have EAD, including yours truely, would probably be able to sneak through without too much of an issue (since it is illegal to discriminate against EADs) - however, many others who are not so fortunate would probably not fare so well. Most probably what will happen is that as soon as a recruiter sees brown skin and hears some trace of an accent - alerm bells would go off in the mind to check if this guy is GC holder or a citizen.
The enabler of the L1 abuse is the non-portability of these visas. We cant do much about that in the current environment. But going all gung ho in terms of enforcement right now -when there is a recession in full swing - may not be in the best interest of any of us.
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snathan
04-24 06:29 PM
"Provide safeguards for visa holders so they know their rights under the law. This would include wage rates and access to benefits."
What benefits are they talking about here?? As far as I am concerned, H1B visa holders have to no benefits... we pay SS taxes, federal taxes, Medicaid, state etc. As soon as we loose our jobs we are told we have a couple of days to leave the country - even when we have been here for years. What an inhumane way to treat a tax payer.
he hee... you are dreaming too much. If you are not paid properly the DOL will help you get your wage. Nothing else.
What benefits are they talking about here?? As far as I am concerned, H1B visa holders have to no benefits... we pay SS taxes, federal taxes, Medicaid, state etc. As soon as we loose our jobs we are told we have a couple of days to leave the country - even when we have been here for years. What an inhumane way to treat a tax payer.
he hee... you are dreaming too much. If you are not paid properly the DOL will help you get your wage. Nothing else.
seekerofpeace
10-01 03:29 PM
Wow Naushit,
Enjoy greenhood..........no luck yet for my wife...But she got a call from USCIS office of Wash DC that it is the biometrics that is holding her approval...they are issuing a biometrics appointment....I told so far she had been issued Biometrics appointment thrice and we have not received anything.
Also if I got approved without biom availability how come she is not....she is giving crap that our job is approving the primary applicant....I told her that none of my friends have got approval just for the principal they all got approved together.
I told her Biom does not hold approval ...she was adamant we can't approve her w/o that.
SoP
Enjoy greenhood..........no luck yet for my wife...But she got a call from USCIS office of Wash DC that it is the biometrics that is holding her approval...they are issuing a biometrics appointment....I told so far she had been issued Biometrics appointment thrice and we have not received anything.
Also if I got approved without biom availability how come she is not....she is giving crap that our job is approving the primary applicant....I told her that none of my friends have got approval just for the principal they all got approved together.
I told her Biom does not hold approval ...she was adamant we can't approve her w/o that.
SoP
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file485
05-23 07:44 AM
Friends
I have a labor approved in Civil/Contruction job skills with PD Oct 2003 and my date is current now. However I am currently on a IT company H1-to be specific 'Business Analyst'.
will there be a problem being now on a IT company H1 and filing for 485 with the Civil/Contruction approved labor..?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW...
I have a labor approved in Civil/Contruction job skills with PD Oct 2003 and my date is current now. However I am currently on a IT company H1-to be specific 'Business Analyst'.
will there be a problem being now on a IT company H1 and filing for 485 with the Civil/Contruction approved labor..?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW...
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knacath
11-03 10:25 PM
Sent 8 letters (spouse+self)
ngopikrishnan
11-09 10:36 AM
I mailed the letters today.
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gg_ny
08-06 07:26 AM
All of this info and more is available in the documents listed in this thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11087
All you have to do is read them.:)
Hi googler,
I understand you started the above "reference name check thread". Is there any reason that one has to talk about name check related issues only on that thread? This is a lean period, there are no emergencies or deadlines, the lists are not clogged with any urgent matters. Last week I requested info about name check, and got a similar posting from you. Now someone has put up a set of useful documents and a few others are discussing it, and again you are making the same posting about your thread. Is there an award for "most read thread" that goes to the thread-starters? By discussing an issue that interests you in a different context, is there any reason for you to become overtly concerned for where the discussion should be placed? Why cant you get some web admin privilege from the core and gather all "name check" postings under your darling thread cited above? Maybe your intentions are good - a mega reference for name check-, may be you want to create a resource on the lines of "namechecks r us (or) s me", but give us a break.
This posting is written more on as an observation, not as a criticism, commentary, or finger pointing. So during your "website-policing-for-namecheck-postings" process, if you come across this, please dont become too defensive to reply to me. Even if you do, I would not respond.
I did a name check on your pseudonym (of course on Google ;-)) and found this music clip kinda explaining 'organize it all' desperation. Enjoy the song at: http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-07-20-n73.html
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11087
All you have to do is read them.:)
Hi googler,
I understand you started the above "reference name check thread". Is there any reason that one has to talk about name check related issues only on that thread? This is a lean period, there are no emergencies or deadlines, the lists are not clogged with any urgent matters. Last week I requested info about name check, and got a similar posting from you. Now someone has put up a set of useful documents and a few others are discussing it, and again you are making the same posting about your thread. Is there an award for "most read thread" that goes to the thread-starters? By discussing an issue that interests you in a different context, is there any reason for you to become overtly concerned for where the discussion should be placed? Why cant you get some web admin privilege from the core and gather all "name check" postings under your darling thread cited above? Maybe your intentions are good - a mega reference for name check-, may be you want to create a resource on the lines of "namechecks r us (or) s me", but give us a break.
This posting is written more on as an observation, not as a criticism, commentary, or finger pointing. So during your "website-policing-for-namecheck-postings" process, if you come across this, please dont become too defensive to reply to me. Even if you do, I would not respond.
I did a name check on your pseudonym (of course on Google ;-)) and found this music clip kinda explaining 'organize it all' desperation. Enjoy the song at: http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-07-20-n73.html
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STAmisha
06-29 03:47 PM
lOOKS LIKE IT. He tells something sensational and back tracks it
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Pineapple
08-05 12:54 AM
Absolutely unbelievable-
Get this: A fingerprint check takes 24-48 hours but a name check takes upto 6 months!!! There are over 8 billion individuals on the planet, and how many have duplicate names? OK, now how many have similar names? And by the way, if you already have a fingerprint, why does name check take so long?
Reminds me of the scene in the recent Simpsons movie, where the government guy jumps up and shouts "Woo Hoo, we actually found someone we were looking for!". The bromide goes that truth is stranger than fiction, but it should be amended to "The truth is more idiotic that fiction".
Get this: A fingerprint check takes 24-48 hours but a name check takes upto 6 months!!! There are over 8 billion individuals on the planet, and how many have duplicate names? OK, now how many have similar names? And by the way, if you already have a fingerprint, why does name check take so long?
Reminds me of the scene in the recent Simpsons movie, where the government guy jumps up and shouts "Woo Hoo, we actually found someone we were looking for!". The bromide goes that truth is stranger than fiction, but it should be amended to "The truth is more idiotic that fiction".
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EB2IndianGC
09-21 04:08 PM
Finally, we got the approval emails for self & wife.
I had got an email from TSC.Ncscfollowup@dhs.gov last friday (09/17/2010) with the update below-
1: The review was complete
2: Visa numbers were requested 2 months ago and all security/prints are current
3: Files have been forwarded to officers for completion.
In my case the email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov helped a lot. They in turn sent an email to TSC.Ncscfollowup@dhs.gov to step up the processing.
As others have mentioned IV has played a big part throughout this journey. Thank you again.
HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS to you and your family! It has been a long journey.
I agree with SKIDUDE, sending e-mail to SCOPSSCATA helps (but please send an e-mail to this, only if you have not received a response from TSC Followup for at least 3 weeks)
I had got an email from TSC.Ncscfollowup@dhs.gov last friday (09/17/2010) with the update below-
1: The review was complete
2: Visa numbers were requested 2 months ago and all security/prints are current
3: Files have been forwarded to officers for completion.
In my case the email to SCOPSSCATA@dhs.gov helped a lot. They in turn sent an email to TSC.Ncscfollowup@dhs.gov to step up the processing.
As others have mentioned IV has played a big part throughout this journey. Thank you again.
HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS to you and your family! It has been a long journey.
I agree with SKIDUDE, sending e-mail to SCOPSSCATA helps (but please send an e-mail to this, only if you have not received a response from TSC Followup for at least 3 weeks)
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vdlrao
04-01 10:02 AM
Guys do not feed the freeloaders by telling anything you are reading in the donor forum. Let these people help themselves by signing up for recurring contributions if they want helpful nformation about their EB2 PD movemement. We are still not meeting of our advocacy day amount. It is all because most people want free lunches. This needs to stop. The 200 people going to DC tomorrow are going to speak for you and me for yours and mine greencard. They are taking time off and spending own money for you and me. Nothing is free in this world. IV is also doing this for you and me and we are taking it for granted. Let people do some good deed today if they want to know good information
Just for your info, I have contributed about $300 for, washington d.c rally in 2007 and lobbying for the recapture of unused green cards. At that time there's no donor forum and donor status.
Just for your info, I have contributed about $300 for, washington d.c rally in 2007 and lobbying for the recapture of unused green cards. At that time there's no donor forum and donor status.
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redsox2009
04-04 04:09 PM
We know EB2 - I dates have not moved since Oct ,2010 .
So India regular quota for the last six months : 5800/2 = 1900 .
Since dates have not moved, I am assuming 1900 should also be considered towards porting.
so my conclusion is so far 1200 + 1900 = 3100 porting already took place. (though only 1900 really got GC)
I think you meant to say 2800 not 5800. I'm correcting your statement.
So India regular quota for the last six months : 2800/2 = 1400
Since dates have not moved, I am assuming 1400 should also be considered towards porting.
so my conclusion is so far 1200 + 1400 = 2600 porting already took place. (though only 1400 really got GC)
So India regular quota for the last six months : 5800/2 = 1900 .
Since dates have not moved, I am assuming 1900 should also be considered towards porting.
so my conclusion is so far 1200 + 1900 = 3100 porting already took place. (though only 1900 really got GC)
I think you meant to say 2800 not 5800. I'm correcting your statement.
So India regular quota for the last six months : 2800/2 = 1400
Since dates have not moved, I am assuming 1400 should also be considered towards porting.
so my conclusion is so far 1200 + 1400 = 2600 porting already took place. (though only 1400 really got GC)
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anotherone
02-05 09:12 PM
There was a mixup and it has been cleared up, so I have the employment offer again.
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walking_dude
10-29 11:18 AM
Yes, we must all understand that AC21 is not a law.
The correct way of stating it is AC21 Act of 2000, signed by Pres. Clinton is law of the land. But, that law doesn't come into effect until and unless the concerned Government department (in this case USCIS) publishes the regulations in the Federal Register. This hasn't happened so far with AC21 law, though we are approaching a decade of it's passage.
An unfortunate example I can give to illustrate the point is the U & T visas created by US Congress some years back to help victims of sexual-trafficking and domestic violence to remain in the country and adjust status to LPRs. Unfortunately for these hapless victims, they couldn't get the benefit of these visas as USCIS did not make the regulations for years. ( I'm not sure of the status now).
There is a saying that 'what the legislature gave in the law, the department took away in regulations'. Department can deny the benefits in two ways. Delaying/not framing the regulations or framing them in such a way as to take away the benefits of the law.
The correct way of stating it is AC21 Act of 2000, signed by Pres. Clinton is law of the land. But, that law doesn't come into effect until and unless the concerned Government department (in this case USCIS) publishes the regulations in the Federal Register. This hasn't happened so far with AC21 law, though we are approaching a decade of it's passage.
An unfortunate example I can give to illustrate the point is the U & T visas created by US Congress some years back to help victims of sexual-trafficking and domestic violence to remain in the country and adjust status to LPRs. Unfortunately for these hapless victims, they couldn't get the benefit of these visas as USCIS did not make the regulations for years. ( I'm not sure of the status now).
There is a saying that 'what the legislature gave in the law, the department took away in regulations'. Department can deny the benefits in two ways. Delaying/not framing the regulations or framing them in such a way as to take away the benefits of the law.
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trueguy
08-21 03:06 PM
Here is the link I was referring to in my earlier post: http://immigration-information.com/forums/blog.php?b=13
I'm not sure whether USCIS ever *appologized* per say but the second paragraph from the link above supports my earlier argument that the new spill-over policy (which in my personal opinion is more rational) is not a random, ad hoc decision by USCIS but rather a careful one after consulting congress etc.
This is not a proof that DOS apologized. Ron Gotcher is a good lawyer but what he mentioned on his blog cann't be used in court. Anyways, thanks.
I'm not sure whether USCIS ever *appologized* per say but the second paragraph from the link above supports my earlier argument that the new spill-over policy (which in my personal opinion is more rational) is not a random, ad hoc decision by USCIS but rather a careful one after consulting congress etc.
This is not a proof that DOS apologized. Ron Gotcher is a good lawyer but what he mentioned on his blog cann't be used in court. Anyways, thanks.
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jthomas
05-10 11:36 PM
hunter,
I am not one of the IT guys. and you have no rights to talk about any countries culture you are unaware of. Secondly, if you want H1B guys to go away,
Heres a deal for you,
1. Get a letter from Senators and Lawmakers, that those H1B guys who have contributed to the economy by filling patents and doing reseach should get out of the country. I will be the one to get out first.
2. Lean this, business are been done to make profits. Employers in this country think about themselves not about you. Check John Hanity show and they will teach you the fundamentals. If employers don't earn any profits they won't do a business.
you are not going to gain anything by expressing your thoughts here. Go and get drunk.
I am not at all interested in being in US. US is not the best in technology anymore. Europe is doing much better.
You have great thoughts, Talk to the senators and tell them to give our Social secutity, and other benifits we paid for and see how we move out of this country.
Please, don't reply to any of the Hunters thread. ITs not worth it. Let this mad guy keep on posting.
Are you sure you are not confusing with Indian epics that discuss how Lord Brahma had sex with his own daughter? :D :D
Unfortunately, you are showing your culture here with responses like this by clearly proving that you are incapable of provding a proper response. You are not making any case here, actually you are undermining it. This clearly shows the contempt that you have for the people of the country where you are desparately trying to immigrate to.
If things were so rosy in India compared to US, you wouldn't be posting in this forum, will you?
As a matter of fact, people like you, irrespective of the qualifications, should never be allowed to immigrate to anywhere. You should remain in India or should I say "arsha-bharatha"?
I am not one of the IT guys. and you have no rights to talk about any countries culture you are unaware of. Secondly, if you want H1B guys to go away,
Heres a deal for you,
1. Get a letter from Senators and Lawmakers, that those H1B guys who have contributed to the economy by filling patents and doing reseach should get out of the country. I will be the one to get out first.
2. Lean this, business are been done to make profits. Employers in this country think about themselves not about you. Check John Hanity show and they will teach you the fundamentals. If employers don't earn any profits they won't do a business.
you are not going to gain anything by expressing your thoughts here. Go and get drunk.
I am not at all interested in being in US. US is not the best in technology anymore. Europe is doing much better.
You have great thoughts, Talk to the senators and tell them to give our Social secutity, and other benifits we paid for and see how we move out of this country.
Please, don't reply to any of the Hunters thread. ITs not worth it. Let this mad guy keep on posting.
Are you sure you are not confusing with Indian epics that discuss how Lord Brahma had sex with his own daughter? :D :D
Unfortunately, you are showing your culture here with responses like this by clearly proving that you are incapable of provding a proper response. You are not making any case here, actually you are undermining it. This clearly shows the contempt that you have for the people of the country where you are desparately trying to immigrate to.
If things were so rosy in India compared to US, you wouldn't be posting in this forum, will you?
As a matter of fact, people like you, irrespective of the qualifications, should never be allowed to immigrate to anywhere. You should remain in India or should I say "arsha-bharatha"?
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akela_topchi
08-07 01:47 PM
Excellent points!!
Sunnysurya,
I am not arguing or obstinately stating my view. I am genuinely confused.
I am not sure how it is unfair on EB2. Didn't these folks apply for GC before us legally and stand in line sincerely (no labor subs) AND gather pertinent work exp and education?
I understand you are working on getting the numbers. I would wait to hear from you with those numbers.
It is one thing to feel wronged seeing a few examples of people abusing the porting but quite another to have a lawsuit alleging that this is a widespread activity and it is causing grievous delays for the ones waiting in EB2. I really don't believe it and feel it is insulting to a large majority of highly skilled and hard working immigrants who have/will legally port their EB3 PDs to EB2.
Regards.
Sunnysurya,
I am not arguing or obstinately stating my view. I am genuinely confused.
I am not sure how it is unfair on EB2. Didn't these folks apply for GC before us legally and stand in line sincerely (no labor subs) AND gather pertinent work exp and education?
I understand you are working on getting the numbers. I would wait to hear from you with those numbers.
It is one thing to feel wronged seeing a few examples of people abusing the porting but quite another to have a lawsuit alleging that this is a widespread activity and it is causing grievous delays for the ones waiting in EB2. I really don't believe it and feel it is insulting to a large majority of highly skilled and hard working immigrants who have/will legally port their EB3 PDs to EB2.
Regards.
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sam2006
01-08 10:37 AM
my letter is on its way
will reach by next week .. great goin IV
will reach by next week .. great goin IV
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danu2007
07-09 08:38 PM
Flower Campaign - Media published urls
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/gandhigiri-send-flowers-to-uscis/
http://www.touchdownusa.org/node/11
http://www.bibdaily.com/
http://www.immigration-law.com/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2183334.cms
http://digg.com/politics/Gandhigiri_Green_Card_Hopefuls_to_Send_Flowers
http://www.wikio.com/entertainment/movies/bollywood
http://news.speeple.com/desicritics.org/2007/07/06/green-card-applicants-resort-to-gandhigiri.htm
From uspolitics.einnews.com(This page got deleted recently)
U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services News - U.S. Politics Today
... changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10. ...
uspolitics.einnews.com/news/uscis - Jul 7, 2007 - Similar pages - Duly noted
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=f4b3076eb0f93110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=1958b0aaa86fa010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/gandhigiri-send-flowers-to-uscis/
http://www.touchdownusa.org/node/11
http://www.bibdaily.com/
http://www.immigration-law.com/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2183334.cms
http://digg.com/politics/Gandhigiri_Green_Card_Hopefuls_to_Send_Flowers
http://www.wikio.com/entertainment/movies/bollywood
http://news.speeple.com/desicritics.org/2007/07/06/green-card-applicants-resort-to-gandhigiri.htm
From uspolitics.einnews.com(This page got deleted recently)
U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services News - U.S. Politics Today
... changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10. ...
uspolitics.einnews.com/news/uscis - Jul 7, 2007 - Similar pages - Duly noted
abc1125
01-14 08:38 PM
I've sent the letters to the WH and IV. Hoping for the best.
I, however, have some questions for the senior members of the IV team. Especially for the ones who are active in the lobbying efforts in Congress and the White House. How realistic are the chances for Green card visa numbers relief, even for the longer term? It seems like there are immigrants from 2 countries - India and China who are adversely effected by the low visa numbers. If one is an immigrant for any other part of the world, it actually isnt that hard to get a Green Card thru employer sponsorship. That being the case, do you think Washington would consider this an issue that needs expedient resolution or for that matter an issue that needs a resolution at all?
Dont want to sound like a downer in this inspiring thread, but at the same time, any answers to my question will be greatly appreciated.
I, however, have some questions for the senior members of the IV team. Especially for the ones who are active in the lobbying efforts in Congress and the White House. How realistic are the chances for Green card visa numbers relief, even for the longer term? It seems like there are immigrants from 2 countries - India and China who are adversely effected by the low visa numbers. If one is an immigrant for any other part of the world, it actually isnt that hard to get a Green Card thru employer sponsorship. That being the case, do you think Washington would consider this an issue that needs expedient resolution or for that matter an issue that needs a resolution at all?
Dont want to sound like a downer in this inspiring thread, but at the same time, any answers to my question will be greatly appreciated.
gimme_GC2006
08-19 10:44 AM
We got our CPO email today.. so now I know I am approved for sure :D:D
Still waiting for daughter's approval message.
Still waiting for daughter's approval message.
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