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  • BharatPremi
    03-25 04:00 PM
    Right, we must avoid the word as much as possible. But then a lot of reqruiters and HRs now seem to educate themselves about the whole EAD thing and seem to be absolutely fine with the EAD.

    Yes, I would insist that jerk to refuse in writing but again ultimately I do not see any option except let it go and look for other oppertunity .

    I believe that as long as interviewing is concerned companies may have the right not to interview particular kind ("EAD holders" for an example) and interview particular kind ("GC Holder for an example..)

    And most of these jerks communicate this thing ("We do not consider "EAD Holder") verbally on phone but they do not dare to say that in writing. I dared one to send me that in writing and still I am waiting for his email after 4 to 5 followups:)

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  • vdlrao
    04-05 03:50 PM
    I am posting this from Ron Gotcher's forum-

    "Cite as "AILA InfoNet Doc. No. 11040563 (posted Apr. 5, 2011)"

    Following-up ----------------------------------------are used. However, a rapid advance could spur a surge in demand that could impact the cut-off dates later in the year. The May Visa Bulletin, --------------of the year.

    Is that mean they are going to move the PDs much further and again move back during the end of the year!!

    So isn't this implying that the PDs will advance very very further than the available visa numbers!!!!!!!!!!


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  • smisachu
    07-09 11:15 PM
    We have no doubt that India is Great...Can't you see in this Gandhigiri that we are doing!! Show me any other country on earth that is using something that is more than 70 years old!!We are here(in US) to acheive some goal..higher than GC..but GC is an essential step in acheiving this..That's it..
    By the same tokes as you say, if Gandhi did not start Quit India movement citing that his efforts for the past 25 years have not suceeded so there is no chance now...British would not have left in 1947

    What we are protesting is the unnecessary turmoil that USCIS put us you said we cannot force things in US like in India, so we have not called for a Bundh, we don't plan to burn anything or pelt stones...Just a peaceful message..that don't waste our money and effort due to your inability to communicate among yourselves..

    As far as your theory that PD2005/2006/2007 should wait..what do you have to say to me..

    1999-Came to US to study MS
    2001-Started working
    2003-Joined MBA
    2004-Employer shut down and off went my EB2 2002 before I got my Labor
    2007-I-485 filed in July?????

    Have I satisfied the criteria for FIFO according to you???

    Hello all
    I am a silent visitor of this website.
    Just my 2 cents... Don't think USA is like India where you can do something forcefully. Why don't you guys understand the real problem of USCIS.
    Do you think that by sending flower to USCIS will force them to make EB2/EB3 current for 2005/2006/2007 guys??

    Please try to understand their problem.
    Also India is the great. Why don't you guys just think that India is your home country where you are born and brought up. Why you people can't just wait and watch?? If nothing happens to the so called GC, then why don't you think to pack up and go back to India???????

    My sincere request, please don't do rally, you might be never know what they can do..... Don't you think that, it is better to go back to India rather than being embarrassed here in US???

    Isn't it a shame on us to go for Rally to get GC?????:D

    Just think that you will get it when time comes, otherwise pack up.

    Please don't take much tension as life is very short. I am assuring you all, nothing will happen with law suit and flower campaign.Don't irritate USCIS by doing all this please.

    EB2 India
    I140 approved-Sept 2006

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  • jonty_11
    06-25 05:55 PM
    Posting my case, in case someone in similar situation is interested.

    Self : PD July 2002 -EB3
    Spouse : PD Feb 2006 - EB3.

    Suggested by our lawyers.
    File my I-485 with spouse as dependent,
    File my spouse's I-485 with me as dependent mentioning receipt notice of first I-485.
    File for only one set of EAD and AP docs. Doesn't matter with which.

    Filing both in July '07.
    Yes, that seems to be the safest...
    only pitfall seems to be as Pappu mentioned - when u enquire abt one case, INS may not be sure which one to respond for, as u will have 2 applications under 1 alien Number. This may hold true for adjudication also, and may delay ur case.


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  • Macaca
    12-05 05:23 PM
    JUAN GONZALEZ: No, exactly. And I have a different perspective on that�

    LOU DOBBS: Sure.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: So you�ll indulge me.

    LOU DOBBS: Sure.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: But the fact is that immigration policy in this country has always been a means of rallying anger among the public.

    LOU DOBBS: Oh, nonsense.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: Yes, it has.

    LOU DOBBS: Nonsense.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: Lou, let me finish.

    LOU DOBBS: First of all�

    JUAN GONZALEZ: Let me finish, Lou, please.

    LOU DOBBS: Ridiculous. But, alright, go ahead.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: The Chinese�in 1882, the Chinese Exclusion Act�what was the claim against the Chinese, small population of Chinese immigrants? The claim was that they were involved in drugs, that they were bringing crime, that they were a danger to the country, and the country passed in 1882 a Chinese Exclusion Act. The same thing in the 1920s.

    LOU DOBBS: Are you holding me responsible? Or are�

    JUAN GONZALEZ: No, no.

    LOU DOBBS: Because I can�t find germane or relevant point there.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: What I�m telling you is that this has been done over and over again. This has been done over and over again. And precisely�

    LOU DOBBS: Juan, according to you�

    JUAN GONZALEZ: Let me finish, Lou. Precisely because�because the country is an immigrant nation, it�s easy to divide the people along ethnic and racial lines over the issue of immigration.

    LOU DOBBS: You�re the only one doing it.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: Over the issue of immigration.

    LOU DOBBS: You�re the only one doing it.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: No, I�m not. No, I�m not.

    LOU DOBBS: You�re socio-ethnocentric to the point of absurdity.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: You know very well that 75% of the undocumented immigrant population in this country comes from Latin America. And not only that, 65% comes from one country: Mexico.

    LOU DOBBS: That is right.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: So the crux of the illegal immigration problem in the United States is the question of Mexico and the United States�

    LOU DOBBS: Correct.

    JUAN GONZALEZ: �and the relationships between Mexico and the United States. Mexicans are the larger source of immigration to this country from any nationality.

    LOU DOBBS: What is your point?

    JUAN GONZALEZ: So that the question is that there is a huge disparity between the economic levels in Mexico and the economic levels in the United States. And you have properly said many times on your show that American companies are creating the problems, rather than helping to alleviate the problems. All that would be needed to do is to raise the economic level in Mexico and the entire illegal immigration population problems would decline in this country. And not only that, but the country, if it had a higher immigration quota in connection with�

    LOU DOBBS: Are you giving me instruction, or are you telling me what we agree upon?

    JUAN GONZALEZ: No, we don�t agree. We don�t agree, because you are demonizing illegal immigration as a separate issue, rather than dealing with the realities that Mexico and the United States must find a way to build better closer economic ties and raise the levels for both countries.

    LOU DOBBS: Your view is�as I take it, you and Amy believe that if we just had more illegal immigration, the crime rate would drop and the economy would boom in this country.


    LOU DOBBS: That�s, on its face, absurd.


    LOU DOBBS: Secondly, I have, over the�over five years in reporting on this issue, repeatedly pointed out that the investment in Mexico by the United States has been paltry and absurd and diverted to China, instead of to this hemisphere, and particularly Mexico. The results could have been quite different. So when you talked about these issues, you�re preaching to the choir, and you know that. The fact that you would focus on a couple of reports on tuberculosis, leprosy, the issue of the CCC in a flash�what amounts to a flash frame, folks�

    AMY GOODMAN: And all the guests connected to it since.

    LOU DOBBS: And all of those guests. How many would you say? Five?

    AMY GOODMAN: Oh, I can keep going. I just thought�

    LOU DOBBS: I would like�

    AMY GOODMAN: �I should give someone else a chance here to have�

    LOU DOBBS: No, really, I think you should keep going, because the reality is, illegal immigration in this country is not going to be overwhelmed by this nonsense. The reality is, the Southern Poverty Law Center is an advocacy group right now. The ADL is an advocacy group right now. Pro-illegal immigration, pro-open borders, both of you, ideologically�I understand that, and I can deal with that.

    But the reality is, there is such a thing as the national interest. There is such a thing as the common good. And it�s not ethnocentric. It�s not group and identity politics. It�s all about this country, because this political system makes this economy possible. And the fact that people are starving in Mexico�and my heart goes out to them�the reality is there are five-and-a-half billion people in the world who are more impoverished than those folks in Mexico. And that land bridge does not give Felipe Calderon or Vicente Fox or any other group of activists the right to dictate the US immigration policy. That�s the reality.

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  • coopheal
    08-07 12:26 PM

    Lets do another flower campaign to wish get well soon to SunnySurya and Rooling_flood.

    Get well soon Mamu...

    I agree. People are not born evil. Situation makes them. Same is happening with SunnySurya and Rooling_flood.


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  • jbr
    03-10 05:36 PM
    We could also do a signature/petition campaign that would focus on 'American Citizens' supporting our effort. We should aim at getting a lot of signatures. Afterall there have to be hundreds of thousands of formerly H1B holders who are citizens now; at least they would support our effort.

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  • Hunter
    05-10 02:18 AM
    Most of what Hunter has said is not wrong. Exploitation and malpractices by small/big consulting companies is a reality.
    But then there are other things that he is simply stereotyping because of personal impact and resulting hatred. Generally implying that foreign workers are crap and cause wage depression isn't true. Wages in IT industry are destined to go down with time because of

    Thank you for admitting most of what I stated here true. Actually all of what I stated here as �skills� are based on my experience in IT management over the last decade. If you suddenly found my post to be stereo typing, you were blind to the stereotypes propagated in this forum for a long time.

    With regard to quality of professionals overall I don't see a marked difference between American and non-American workers. Moreover, I don't think that employers will employ substandard labor just because they are marginally cheap, because it turns out to be more expensive. In all the cases that H1-B and L1 pocket less money than their counterparts the booty goes to middlemen(both Indian and American bodyshps) and not the companies that ultimately use their skills.

    You are wrong here. Do you know that companies like TCS/INFY/Wipro offer �blended rates� in the range of $20+/hr for keeping over 70% of staff offshore? Client directly benefits here. I have seen hypocritical companies that took tax benefits from local governments like cities and counties (which came at the expense of property taxes paid by residents of those localities) for job creation and then turned around and outsourced the very same jobs that they were supposed to create to TCS/Wipro/INFY etc., often dismissing the existing contractor pool/employees which involved people of all nationalities including H1-b workers like �TN Man� who couldn�t compete with the $30+ rates for the on-shore workers even if something was available from these vendors. Now to dump people at $30/hr rate, even though talent is locally available - like "TN Man", these vendors will abuse H1 and L1 by securing as many of these visas as they can( which were intended to bring the best and the brightest for american companies), causing Bill Gates to advocate for unlimited H1-bs when in reality, what he needs is a few thousand H1-bs which should be available in normal circumstances, had these companies not been poaching those visas.

    So these offshore companies circumvented the prevailing wages through an industrial practice that should be considered �dumping�, where they dumped green-horns for the greedy clients, because the green-horns don�t have to go through any interviews in exchange of the very low rates. In this case, the people dismissed from the company/contractors were a lot more skilled, yet managers like me would be forced to start from scratch with the new pool, often resulting in delays for strategic initiatives at these companies, but the bean counters at the top never care, since their horizon is the next quarterly earning release, not what the company would do 2 years down the line (and some of these companies are the culprits behind financial crisis today with their very myopic thinking, just a sample was illustrated above)

    The only jobs that were created in those localities due to such corporations in exchange for tax credits often were Indian Grocery shops opening in that locality to cater to those folks from offshore vendors. :D BTW, I don't have anything against them, I like Indian food.

    I have worked with companies where I managed a 50+ member team to execute a project which at another company employing local workforce may have been done with a 12-15 person team (I have managed it both ways and hence I know that as a fact). Now the company employing the 50+ member team will often massage the numbers to show that they saved $x differential per person* 50 for the bean counters and would have secured bonuses for the higher ups because of those paper savings.

    Now I think as a result of people like me interacting with US law-makers, they are getting the true picture of the abuse going on with the current processes. I understand many of you here are concerned about your own career and eventually settling in US, but once you become a permanent resident or US Citizen, you are going to face the same realities. I have seen Indian-americans who went through the GC/Citizenship process becoming some of the the fiercest critics of the current system, because (like "TN Man"), their livelihoods also are threatened by the current process. They suddenly understand that it has nothing to do with the so-called "skill" or "talent" shortage, it has everything to do with what your hourly billing rate is.


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  • BharatPremi
    03-27 12:37 PM
    I do understand that without evidence you can't fight the conventional way or file a law suit. It would be difficult, if not impossible. I am not debating that. I never said it would be easy. Even with evidence (in case of Capital One), one can argue if thats a good enough base for fighting and whether it will do any good if the case is won. Thats not the point.

    What would you do if a recruiter or employer told you (verbal or writing) that it is their policy not to hire Indians? (I am just using India as an example).

    Regardless of written evidence, I would be inclined to do something about it. I am not saying that I will file a law suit. I would probably not even want to work for such an employer. But I will not be speculating that oh, there must be some loophole that allows employers to have such a policy; because many of them are saying that, it must be legal. I will not assume that they can do this under "Hire and fire" authority. We just seem to have a little difference in opinion about that. We agree on pretty much everything else. Thats all. And frankly, its good to have an opposing perspective on things.

    Now, if I hear from experts that my understanding of the discrimination laws is incorrect and that it is legal for an employer to say that they will not hire somebody with EAD, I'll just shut up. Until then, I will encourage people not to be quiet and to call the hotline, file a complaint, call the media, and pursue whatever means we have at our disposal to fight what we consider injustice and fight what we believe is discrimination as per the law.

    Now, I am with you:)

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  • vikki76
    10-22 11:21 AM
    My coworker and his spouse got both physical card and CPO mail yesterday on the same day itself . His PD is Jan 2005, EB-2 India and Nebraska service center.


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  • needhelp!
    01-08 02:29 PM
    gtg506p, please post it there if you are a member so that they can participate.

    I will participate in this wholeheartedly. One suggestion to the admin: perhaps we can post this in other websites also like ? I know a lot of people use that site for posting problems etc and whoever is not in IV might also get to know about it.

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  • vinabath
    07-10 12:51 PM
    Well, Me being a devils advocate I will agree with you. Because I recently saw Gandhi movie. Gandhi took 50+ years being the citizen of the country. Some people think that is very slow. Some think thats the most effective strategy. So from your perspective its waste of money and time as there are no quick returns.

    Vinabath i do NOT expect the nation to put Legal Immigration before the IRAQ WAR. Ofcourse I do not expect that. What I am trying to point out is that this is going to be a LONG LONG ongoing issue and if not the war, there will be OTHER issues like the presedential elections etc.

    On another note, the US is a capitalistic economy. If you are not selfish, ur a nice guy and nice guys finish LAST.


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  • sundarpn
    01-02 12:27 AM
    This is useful info. But scary :(:mad:

    I was planning to get my h1b visa revalidation done at Chennai end of Jan '08.

    Can anyone who goes for H1b revalidation post their experiences?

    is this showing any signs of improvement?

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  • anilkumar0902
    08-17 01:39 PM
    Congrats, Anil. I know it's a big relief....enjoy your freedom..

    Thanks gbof..


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  • needhelp!
    09-09 06:10 PM
    NumbersUSA is SICK

    Several baseless allegations and an attempt to stop HR 5882 bill by NumberUSA: :mad:

    This is time for us to work together, leaving all differences aside.

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  • ram_ram
    01-11 01:33 PM
    ITAA President Quits, May Run For Senate

    Harris Miller all but declares run for Virginia seat held by Republican George Allen.

    By Eric Chabrow

    Jan 5, 2006 04:05 PM

    The chief voice for American IT vendors in Washington is seeking to switch sides and become a target of Capitol Hill lobbyists.

    Harris Miller, 54, this week quit his job for the past 10� years as president of the Information Technology Association of America�the lobbying arm of the IT industry�to run for the U.S. Senate from Virginia. A Democrat, Miller is eying the seat held by Republican George Allen. Miller says he'll make an official announcement on whether he'll run next week. But in a telephone interview, Miller sounded like a candidate. He already reserved a domain name for his campaign:

    Miller says top Virginia political leaders, including the retiring and popular Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, a former high-tech executive who's mulling a run for president, urged him to run for the Senate.

    As head of the ITAA, Miller has lobbied Congress to liberalize laws such as the H-1B visa program to allow a greater number of foreign IT workers to be employed in the United States, as well as opposed efforts to penalize American businesses from outsourcing work overseas. Miller's positions on these matters have been attacked by some members of the liberal wing of the Democrat Party who seek to limit the importing of IT workers and the exporting of IT jobs as a way to protect American jobs.

    But Miller suggests his views have been misinterpreted by critics, saying he isn't pro- or anti-outsourcing, but recognizes that American businesses operate worldwide and have the right to hire workers in countries where they conduct business. Placing limits on outsourcing could hurt efforts to open foreign markets to American IT wares, he contends.

    Instead, government should back programs that encourage the creation of new IT jobs in the United States. For instance, he says he's a long-time advocate of programs to bring broadband and other high technologies to American rural areas as a way to attract IT jobs to those areas. He cites a Warner administration program to create hundreds of high-tech jobs by providing broadband Internet connections to businesses in southwest Virginia. "Five years ago, it was not an option, the area didn't have access to the Internet and technology, and those jobs might have gone to Mexico, India, or China," Miller says.

    Miller says the United States isn't investing enough in education and worker retraining, as well as IT research and development and broadband, adding that America has fallen behind some other countries. If elected, he says he'd push for increased investments in these areas. "We have to figure out how to run faster, jump higher than our competitors," he says.

    Before joining the ITAA, Miller ran a consulting and lobbying firm in Washington, and served as deputy director of personnel management for Congressional relations in the Carter administration.

    Replacing Miller as interim ITAA president is Robert Laurence, who had been Sybase VP of public sector.


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  • andycool
    08-19 01:14 PM
    I received the card production ordered email today morning, after 1 hr again I received a Decision email. Online status shows as "Decision" , does this mean my 485 is approved?

    PD: 10-Feb-2006 (EB2)
    Opened SR on 08/03
    SR response on 08/18 - Your case is currently under review by an officer.

    Current 485 Status:

    Your Case Status: Decision

    On August 19, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later. If you move before receiving your card, please call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.


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  • ebizash
    08-07 02:24 PM
    DISCLAIMER - I am EB3-I with PD of 01/2007 AND I am not porting to EB2....

    I DO NOT support this law suit idea but I really admire SunnySurya... not because he/she is planning to file lawsuit but because he/she has been really polite and patient to so many insulting, taunting and name-calling posts "personally" against him/her.

    Again, I am NOT supporting actions of SunnySurya..... but admiring the patience and politeness....

    My first and last post on this thread... hopefully... :)

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  • eb3retro
    10-13 04:00 PM
    have not been following this thread so deep. Looks like if someone introduces the other person to vonage service, does both of them get 2 months free? if yes, could someone refer me. pls me me. thanks.

    01-31 11:35 AM
    Thanks for all your good wishes. I am praying for all of you, you will hear the good news soon.

    Hi, Virginia_desi, perhaps my observation and moral was a bit pre-fetched. But based on two big forums (IV, Murthy), Indian consulates are the only ones that reportedly delay passport deliveries by more than 10 days for some cases. I have not read a single first hand experience (not friend tales) talking about 30 days delays at any other posts. I did read about a 7 days delay at London, but that was it.

    Hopefully the PIMS system will stabilize soon. My one complain is that enough forewarning should be given to the people in advance when making such big changes in visa process. There was some information from DOS on 7th and 28th Dec on about PIMS, but that mentioned a maximum delay of 48 hours. I dont think 48 hours can be rounded to a month in any mathematical syntax. Furthermore, people were making appointments 2-3 months in advance. They cannot change their plans on a 2 weeks notice, and even that notice did not carry credible information about delays to anticipate.

    Anyways, the moral should be "stay well informed before making any immigration steps". God bless all.

    06-29 08:28 PM
    Suppose they reject the 485 app on July 2nd after they receive it then will they cash our checks or just return them to us.

    No...I don't think they will encash your check!

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